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New Moon Discussion
By Mitchy

New moon to me is a new cycle, a new start on something. Somehow I have…. sort of…. a need to celebrate this moon, but have never done so. Because I was told that the energies this night is very strong, like full moon, but at new moon the energies are negative; dark forces.

I do not believe in dark forces when it comes to the universe itself. But I do believe that people have dark areas inside, which we all have to convert in to light. Some people are darker than others. But to me the universe is good. So why shouldn’t I celebrate a new moon? We strive to live by the moon cycles, but cannot celebrate grandmother moon unless she’s full.

Are you celebrating the new moons? Why or why not? What are the risks? Why do a lot of people think that a new moon is equal dark forces/energies?

(I don’t know if this is important for my need to celebrate a new moon but I’m born two days before new moon, and I’m baptized two days before a new moon)

Wynsong:
I celebrate the new moon as a time to put things I wish to grow out there...to plant the seeds of creation.

Because I do not see either creation or destruction as positive or negative in their essential nature....I look at the energy of the moon's light as a symbol of the cycle of creation and destruction...that we can watch monthly. This is not Native North American Spirituality, (although there may be this story attached to the cycle, in one of them), it is one I borrowed from another, at the moment unremembered traditional stories or myths....

The moon grows into her fullness and then something takes a bite out of her until she is gone again....

Cycle repeats.

So for me the new moon is the apex, the turning point between utter destruction of what was, and the beginning of something new.

Like the beginning of yin energy at the moment that yang energy is at its greatest (and vice versa).

Darkness is the element of the feminine...the deep darkness of the Mother's soil, the deep, darkness of a den in which birth occurs, the deep darkness of the feminine womb...into which seeds are placed, and grow with the returning light.

Just another view.

CinnamonMoon:
Thank you for sharing, Wyn, certainly this is one of the various aspects of Grandmother Moon's energy and ways. There are so many sides to her, and her mysteries.

Mitchy:
Thanks for sharing, wynsong7. You explained this in a very, very, fine way. It hit me like a snowball and made me think. I’m very glad to hear, that I’m not the only one who wish to celebrate grandmother Moon in some way or another. I actually held my first new moon ceremony last night, and thanked grandmother for a new cycle. I felt so good afterwards. Thanks for showing me the way.

Paah Wenchokws:
I and a group of women celebrate each new moon in the sauna. The sauna is located on a beautiful piece of property. Washing or releasing old, making the way for the new.

DragonHawk:
Mitchy, In Celtic lore the new moon is the start of the growing phase of that Moon: the new energies coming in that we can work with through the growing to the full moon before the moon starts to wane and we reflect on what we have learnt: so the waxing/growing phase is a phase of action the full moon almost like a standstill as we wait for what we tried to achieve to come to pass and in the waning phase we reflect on what we learnt at full moon given our active energies in the growing phase.

Generally a dark phase in Celtic lore is generally a more feminine phase wheras a light phase is more masculine: the Celtic Year starts in the dark winter of the year at Halloween and the feminine brings forth life.....

So to me, if anything, the new moon is the more positive as we can put our intent into that phase, whereas at full moon we are reaping what we have sewn so to speak and it might not be to our taste.

I think the fears come or we see it as positive dependent on our perception of what darkness means: to me it is the creative place that we can place our intent in/upon, but traditionally it is perceived as a negative force: perhaps there is a subconscious fear of our own power in the fear perception of darkness?

I know people do, but, like you, personally I don't believe in a force that opposes goodness in the Universe and that the forces people perceive as evil are formed purely as a means to be able to perceive goodness: as in a "without darkness there could not be light" sorta way i.e. it is our intent that creates a force that opposes goodness - but that force is neutral (and the same as goodness) - but our need to bring forth our will in a manner we know deep down opposes goodness by our intent turns that force into a negative force or if our perception is negative we can turn energy we receive from positive to negative.

So, it appears to me the dark moon would be the best time to celebrate: to put positive energies and intent into the coming growth of the moon: but I don't know if that is a commonly/traditionally held view. But before I started such ceremonies I would want to learn about the moons experientially over a yearly moon cycle: feel each moons effects in a more passive manner before I started placing too much intent into cycles I had not yet learnt a little understanding of.

CinnamonMoon:
Very well said Wolfie, I learned to work with the Moon along those same lines with the same perspective. I think this too could tie to the Moon being seen as both masculine and feminine in its energy depending on the cultural sacred point of view. Just thinking out loud in the moment of where that may stem from, it seems interwoven to me. Anyway, I think you expressed that very nicely, thank you.

Mitchy, Wyn and Pahh, thank you for starting this thread and sharing in it, we are seeing different perspectives and I like that. They're not really conflicting, merely showing the different energies and faces of the Moon, how they can be perceived. Like Wolfie mentioned, I believe the energy is neutral and that intent determines what is perceived as good or bad. I know that is what drives the energy into focused directions both in the teachings I've received and by experience. So depending on perspective and intent the will sets that neutral energy into direct motion. It's a universal perspective that thoughts are things, words have power, and actions bring reactions. I like to observe the different weaving that's done this way, I learn a little each time and it stretches my mind sometimes to see what else I might do if..... and it's interesting to see how the common threads go in new directions. There is truth in things you've all shared that stands out and that's what makes this rich.

Mitchy:
Thanks to all of you for sharing your point of view on new moons. There is much symbolism in it with the sauna. I like the idea. And Wolfie, in general I’m very pleased with what you wrote. But I especially like this:

“Generally a dark phase in Celtic lore is generally a more feminine phase wheras a light phase is more masculine: the Celtic Year starts in the dark winter of the year at Halloween and the feminine brings forth life.....So to me, if anything, the new moon is the more positive as we can put our intent into that phase, whereas at full moon we are reaping what we have sewn so to speak and it might not be to our taste.”

And I agree with you that it must be some subconscious fear when people talk about dark forces for new moon. I’m not sure if this is a special thing for witches/wiccans but I have never heard NA talk about fear when it comes to new moon. I’m not into Witchcraft/wicca but I have met a few.

Anyway, I’m glad for this sharing which shows us how different we are. Which is good. In that way we can all grow.

BlueButterfly:
Hi Mitchy, I've only just started working with the moon energies this past few weeks. I'm learning as I go along, but found that a releasing ceremony for healing I did was really powerful, which spurred me on to do another creative/manifestation ceremony with the new moon too. It's all good!!

Enchantra:
BlueButterfly wrote: “Hi Mitchy, I've only just started working with the moon energies this past few weeks. I'm learning as I go along, but found that a releasing ceremony for healing I did was really powerful, which spurred me on to do another creative/manifestation ceremony with the new moon too. It's all good!!”

I'd love to hear more about this ceremony, Butterfly! I am currently experiencing this new moon in a very emotional way so I know there must be some stuff for me to release and say good bye to! Great thread everyone!

BlueButterfly:
Hi Enchantra, I'll mail you!

Mitchy:
I like your approach to learning about the new moon, Butterfly. Thanks for sharing.

EagleSinging:
I don't have a particular ceremony, but I am aware of the New Moon and its growth into fullness that I have to look forward to. Consistently my dreams become more pronounced after the New Moon, get radically clear during the week of the Full Moon and then become relatively quiet after the Full Moon. Then it begins again.

So, I tend to use my awareness of the stages of the moon to place my focus on what is important for me to know generally (asking Creator to show me that; it isn't for me to determine but that isn't to say that I don't ask for guidance in dreams sometimes). I will tend to see themes in my dreams over a few days after the New Moon and then I work with the energy of those dreams toward the Full Moon for better understanding and awareness.

I love doing that so much that when the clarity and intensity of my dreams subside after the Full Moon, I want more when instead what I know I should be doing is resting and recharging before the cycle starts again! LOL

 

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