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Discussion on Empathy
By Silver Eagle Dream Dancer
I'm going to write a small series
of posts on empathy. First though, I'd like to start with a
definition of empathy - what is it? To varying degrees and levels
- it's where you can actually
feel what another person is feeling (receptive empath).You aren't
just sympathetic to how
another is feeling (like you can understand it) - you actually
feel it yourself. You could be
someone who has a mild version of empathy... it only affects
you once in a while and only under
certain conditions OR you could be someone who has a great degree
of it and must cope
constantly or be bombarded with others thoughts and energies.
How to tell if you are an empath:
1. Do you avoid crowds because you feel lost' in
them or just want to make yourself small?
2. If someone you know is ill and you visit, do you feel
3. If someone in your immediate vicinity is angry - are
you immediately angry without knowing
4. Do you get headaches in large groups of people?
5. If you see someone with a cast or obvious bandaging
of a wound - do you feel a sharp surge of
energy at the sight?
6. Do you often have feelings that you're pretty sure
don't belong to you? (if you are empathic,
you'll understand what I mean by this question)
7. If a friend is depressed, do you feel burdened when
you leave them - like you're carrying
These are just a few of the ways to tell if you're empathic..
Off the top of my head.
RX for empaths
This is a good cleansing exercise for letting go of energies
that don't belong with you. I
recommend it for all empaths!
1. Fill a tub with water - as hot as you can stand.
2. Get a candle.. just for ambiance not ritual.
3. Put three tablespoons of each sea salt and baking
soda in the water to dissolve
4. Add whatever scent you want to the bath.
5. Get your butt in the water! May as well take the rest
of your body in too.
6. Stay put until you feel the energies have washed off
or been dissolved. You can direct this
through will.. but generally, it'll happen anyway on it's own
so why not relax? Don't be alarmed
if your water turns a hazy or very dark color. That is supposed
7. Make sure that you've been fully immersed in the water,
taking care not to get it in your eyes.
8. Let the water out but stay in the tub. Picture all
the excess energy going down the drain and
back to Mother Earth to be recycled into good energy. Thank
the water for cleansing.
9. Rinse off in the shower or you'll be itchy.
10. Thank the candle... this is something I always do
out of respect for the fire spirits. Also..
Don't blow it out - snuff it. You should never put fire out
with air - even when you're not in ritual
11. Repeat as needed. I do this in the evening so that
all I've accumulated during the day can be
cleansed before bedtime.
I wouldn't recommend any crystals be added to this. It's strictly
for cleaning off excess energies,
nothing more. The ritual version isn't too different from this
and it's one I use during the full
moon, before major healings, or if shielding others.
Why shouldnt you put out a fire with air? It will get
poed from having been dominated by
another element, or at you for using another element on it?
LOL.... it was something I learned while training in shamanism.
Fire should be grounded if
possible. I blew out a candle once, (course that was a ritual
situation) which in effect mixed fire
energies with air energies. The energies grew exponentially
and I was sick for a week! So
anytime now that A process requires me to recommend putting
out a candle - ritual or not - I
recommend snuffing or grounding if possible.
I am a little confused. Empaths have the ability to feel others
moods. I can sense feelings and
moods of individual I know and of some I don't too. However,
I do not take on their moods as an
empath seems to. At times I have consciously told people I understand
and I will offer
suggestions but you need to solve you own problems. Are energies
actually attracted to the
empath? Can't the empath just say no thank-you and send the
From what I've experienced and seen, yes - energies of all sorts
are attracted to an empath. They
can refuse, but most of the time, they don't know this is something
they need to do.
Here's a bit more on the subject that may help clarify: There's
a big difference in being 'sympathy
and empathy'. Definitely - most people are sympathetic as a
byproduct of emotion. But in
situations where a sympathetic person will feel something about
another's feelings - an empath
will feel what the other feels. A sympathetic person is able
to let go of it or walk away from it
when the emotion passes - an empath will find that difficult
if not impossible because what the
other person felt has now become a part of them.
A good example is how viewing the news affects an empath verses
a sympathetic person. A
sympathetic person will view suffering on the news and say '
That's so sad. Something really
needs to be done about that. I'm going to sniff around and see
if there's anything I can think of to
help.' An empath will cry and feel, not only a bit of personal
trauma related to what they viewed,
but likely feel a bit angry that they were exposed to it.
Boiling this down to the simplest parts - whether an sympathetic
person or empath - it's all about
energy interactions. The basics that I've seen and experienced...
a sympathetic person doesn't
'take' any of the energies internally during the energy exchanges
that happen all the time. An
empath does and then it becomes a part of them in some degree
Thanks for the information and clarification between sympathetic
and empathetic. I can see
where empathy would be an excellent tool in the healing fields
but it also could be very difficult.
I cannot imagine what it would be like to feel everything everyone
else feels in a hospital setting.
I guess what I feel is more sympathetic or at least feeling
their feeling but from an objective
perspective. While I care a great deal I don't take the problems
on at a personal level.
Well, SEDD, I noticed lately that I seem to be more of an empath
than I thought. Most of your
questions here I could answer with yes, partly to my surprize!
Pity, that I cannot follow your advice of what to do, as I can
no longer make it out of a bathtub,
as I do not have the strength.
((HUGS)) I know it's hard for you to get out of the tub. How
about smudging yourself? Or
sweeping your aura with a feather? Another way to clear yourself
is to sweep the front of your
body from one shoulder (L) to the opposite hip (R) with your
(R) hand, then from the other
shoulder to opposite hip, straight down one arm, straight down
the other arm...shake the hands
off, either towards running water or towards a flame (my personal
preferences), stomp and
shake your feet...all with the intention of removing negativity
from yourself. I hope that helps.
((HUGS)) PS, I'm not at all surprised you were able to answer
yes to so many of the questions!
You are highly empathic I think! xo
That is the story of my life. I have been that way for as long
as I can remember. Back in college I
would avoid shopping in malls during busy times because it would
literally make me sick from
all the crashing emotions around me. My shields have gotten
a lot stronger and my sense of self
is greater so I can actually stand crowds now, but its
not always easy. It's not really such a bad
thing, but it does dictate a lot in your life. It has actually
proven to be a big help in some of my
more recent undertakings.
Just a question for empaths? Can't you just choose to tune everyone
out and not listen or even
see them? How do you work in a noisy environment if you cannot
block out noise and other
individuals that are working in the same room or laboratory?
How do you plan your day when
you are walking to work if you cannot blocks other out. I don't
mean completely; you are always
aware that someone is there but your mind is focused on something
else and don't really see the
individual; you are only aware of the presence of others. For
those in school, focusing on a
project or your homework in study hall. It must be extremely
difficult to focus on accomplishing
a task if you cannot block out others let alone their emotions.
Aren't there tricks to overcome the
intrusions so that you can function well in the world of people
while also using this gift.
Your questions are all valid, Earthwalker, but sadly the answer
is both yes and no. Not everyone
can block out their empathy for others and it can be a very
painfully debilitating condition.
Many people (those caught up in the fluff and white light of
the spiritual paths today) are under
the misconception that these gifts are always wonderful and
painless. The truth is that it's just the
opposite. As an empath, thankfully one who can block (when I
see it building up, there are times
it hits me too) it is something that I tend to be able to control
but not everyone is like that. For
some people this is a very painful experience that cannot be
overcome in the conventional sense.
They need to literally avoid crowds or public situations. Empathic
and other abilities often bring
with them the onset of physical pain. For example, many clairvoyant
people find they have
headaches or nausea that accompany their gift when it is active
and that's not something they
enjoy. It's not all glitter and light. Whatever a gift might
be, it can and often does have side effects
be they painful or disorientating.
Another example I can give you from my own experience is when
my Guides want to get my
attention. A ringing takes place in my ears, very high pitched,
and very soft. I stop what I'm
doing and enter the Silence to listen to them. That's not always
possible though, and then that
sound gets louder and louder (insisting I heed the Call). Even
then I can't always step out of the
situation I'm in. When that happens it can be very distracting
and un-nerving to contend with.
There are times when I can't connect too, and the sound continues
for lengthy periods making me
feel like I'm about to lose my mind if it doesn't stop. Eventually
the connection comes and it does
stop, but going through that is not always pleasant.
Sometimes those reactions can be intense heat or cold flowing
through the body, dizziness,
blackouts, or any number of other physical, emotional, or spiritual
experiences. For some it is
temporary, lasting through an initial stage of onset until the
gift is mastered. For some it is
lifelong. As for choosing to tune everyone out and not listen
or even see them, regrettably that
answer is no where some empaths are concerned. And working within
noisy environments or
walking to work if you cant block others out, well, unless
the individual is able to shield they
are unable to tolerate those situations (in some cases being
housebound). It's physically,
mentally, emotionally, or spiritually (sometimes all of these)
painful for them. It is extremely
difficult. Now the average person can shut out those around
them and focus on things as a rule,
but certain people simply can't. It's sad things are like that
but it's also a fact.
With regard to tricks in overcoming the intrusions that would
allow one to function using this
gift, there are methods of shielding, centering, and grounding
that work and a fairly wide variety
of methods as well. The trouble is that for many of these inflicted
people those methods are
useless as they dont understand what is happening or why.
They are often individuals seeking
the help of Spiritual Healers to overcome their inflictions.
In some cases that is effective, in
others not. This does not just apply to empaths. It applies
to all psychic abilities that we hold and
the work we do. For instance, when I transition on a spiritual
level and undergo change I have a
very physical reaction to it. I will have dizzy spells where
I nearly blackout and have to grab
hold of something to steady myself. I have moments when it feels
I've been physically hit by an
unseen force that shoves me off balance from the side, as when
someone bumps into you. When
that happens my inner self is shoved around too. It can be very
strong and my spirit is literally
pushed out of my body to some extent and then snaps back. This
is usually a side to side motion
but can vary. It serves to align me and I know my Guides are
doing this. However it's still
shocking when it happens because there is never a warning. It
just hits. That's part of the process.
If we knew we'd steady ourselves to take the blow and that would
hinder the results. So we are
taken off guard and it's done very quickly, and sometimes intrusively
There are times when my power centers are aligned for me by
my Guides so that I can work
more accurately. That's a sense of Kundalini (warm rushes) moving
up and down my spine
lasting anywhere from a few brief moments to hours. It actually
tickles and gives me the giggles
when that happens, but it's much different from the onset of
Kundalini going active in my
pathwork. It's an adjustment and it goes to a cellular level.
When people transition that cellular
restructuring is something that forces us to purge negative
energies and can cause physical illness
to be part of that process...expelling dis-ease or spewing up
what we no longer need. It's all part
of the whole. For an empath unable to control their reactions
this is often a constant state for
All of us, while basically the same, have different strengths
and weaknesses to our makeup. Each
level of our being varies, and we need to learn to master those
aspects of self. That's what the
spiritual path brings to us among other things, but it's often
a long and painful search to find
those answers for an empath...if they find them at all. For
those who cannot it becomes a chronic
and debilitating condition. Those of us who understand it try
to help in whatever way we can,
sometimes that's just reduced to the level of understanding
and our hands are tied, but at least
they have someone who knows what they're talking about and doesn't
label them as psychotic.
There may not be a whole lot of comfort in that, but it's better
than nothing. We make
suggestions where we can and sometimes that helps. Like I said,
there are many techniques to
try, it's a long list though and that means a lot of searching.
Well Earthwalker I had to wait until Cinnamon could answer you
here first (me not having
enough words to express myself properly LOL).
Empathic and other abilities often bring with them the
onset of physical pain. For example,
many clairvoyant people find they have headaches or nausea that
accompany their gift when it is
active and that's not something they enjoy. It's not all glitter
and light. Whatever a gift might be,
it can and often does have side-effects be they painful or disorientating.
Now here I can say, YES that is exactly how it feels! I have
various abilities that come together
with various reactions. I am not always sure what the *problem*
is. Sometimes it could also be a
simple panic attack, simple in the sense it would be purely
physical, my own physical problems.
The day before yesterday I had another strong empathic reaction
to what somebody wrote on
another board, there it was clear to me why I felt the way I
did. Yesterday and today I am totally
giddy and can barely walk straight lines, now this time I am
not sure why! Now I could walk
about with shields around me, but I do not want to bother with
them, the take too much strength
for me to keep up. I am one with multiple abilities who has
to live a bit isolated, but that is good
When my guides want for me to listen to something or want to
make me see something the sounds
around me get more unbearable for me or the light around me
hurt my eyes more. When I get a
deja vu experience my heartrate shoots up and I get more and
more excited.... etc. Now I haven't
developed my mediumistic abilities yet...wonder what that feels
Clairaudience....I hear things nobody else does or at least
not as clearly...etc.. etc.. LOL I am
NOT going on an EGO trip here, just to give you some more examples!
I cannot really understand since I can block out just about
anything. Although that too can create
problems. I have walked down the street passed my husband and
never saw him. It is not good
for relationships to do this often. Maybe that is why we got
divorced (only kidding). I think the
closest I have come to your situations is when I have been asked
to go to group settings with
people experiencing cancer or family members with alcohol problems.
I am always asked back
and I refuse. I can feel what they feel since I had been through
the same thing and can share the
way I handled the situation. But so many people want you to
take on their problems or just
accept them which I refuse to do. I tackle problems, I do not
just accept them. It must be brutal if
you cannot draw that line. I like the ability to be able to
talk to people at a level beyond small
talk immediately and have spent hours helping people through
crisis but really don't accept
limitation of disease etc. so cannot be really empathetic to
I can also feel when people are trying to hurt me but I don't
walk away I simply address the
feelings so we both can continue to function in an environment
where we understand one
another. It would be debilitating not to be able to confront
or deal with these emotions. I do get
some physical signs when I dance or see visions. Usually the
sides of the back of my head feel
like they are pounding slightly. I guess others might consider
it a headache but I can block out
most pain. I also occasionally get blisters on my toes after
I dance even if I have been sitting. It is
of no concern, Hydrocortisone and cotton socks always clear
it up. As for spirit getting my
attention, visions keep showing up until I spend time or get
frustrated and promise to dance at
Another way spirit gets my attention was shown to me a few days
ago; I was probably tuning
these faint images out as I was watching TV. All of a sudden
I black and white images flask
across the TV followed by a faint visions. After several times
I gave in and danced. It was kind
of interesting although it did startle me.
To get back to the point I find empathy very interesting but
cannot really imagine what it would
be like. How often are empaths diagnosis inadvertently as schizophrenic?
This could be
extremely dangerous. Does this get stronger over time. I certainly
haven't ever had to stop what I
was doing. I simply told spirit I would dance latter this evening
and did. I would think that a
huge difference would be that both of you are getting messages
that are important while mine are
still teachings. Probably teaching me to pay attention and not
block everything out. Still would I
see the visions if I couldn't refocus and to an extent and block
out the mundane. It is really more
like relegating the mundane to a secondary focus. Don't you
really have this capability as well.
How does an empath concentrate on a message if they don't possess
this blocking ability?
Now women are supposed to be able to do at least three things
at a time...I can do only one, one
reason I never have a radio on, music or people talking would
drive me absolutely nuts. When I
listen to music, I listen to music; when I read, I read
Does this get stronger over time. I certainly haven't
ever had to stop what I was doing. I simply
told spirit I would dance latter this evening and did. I would
think that a hugeh difference would
be that both of you are getting messages that are important
while mine are still teachings.
Probably teaching me to pay attention and not block everything
out. Still would I see the visions
if I couldn't refocus and to an extent and block out the mundane.
It is really more like relegating
the mundane to a secondary focus. Don't you really have this
capability as well. How does an
empath concentrate on a message if they don't possess this blocking
Now Cinnamon can walk between the worlds, I cannot...yet. She
has 35 years of experience I
have not in the sense of shamanic ways. I had all my life experiences
of deja vu, knowing
things, seeing through people. I am still a learner/student
like you, Earthwalker, only I like
everyone else have different experiences, have different things
to learn. I cannot just say I dance
later, since that one time I tried over and over again without
success. I also asked for dreams to
come to me, but they don't, not when I want to. They just come
when they are supposed to. I
guess it is like everything else, you are given what you need,
not what you want. I know when
there is something for me to learn and I wait until that is
clear to me, I do not say I dance
I got *visions* like in normal TV reports, or in a news report
in the newspaper. One time I was
so confused why I was feeling I had to tell a neighbor something
before they left. He got into a
bad fight before a bar in town and had to stay in hospital for
a while. Now I *read* that story in
the paper before it happened! After I heard that I looked through
all the papers in the house and
I couldn't find that article! Before I came to this village
where I live right now, I saw a report on
TV about it, in which all the people I would later meet were
included! I doubt very much that this
report was *real*! These visions or whatever one wants to call
them are clear to me like any
other TV program or newspaper article!
It must be wonderful to know things before they happen. Can
you change things by intercepting
them before they actually happen? This would go along with an
article (physics) I have been
reading. In other words if an object emits light in all directions,
if you could block the light,
divert it, or change it prior to it being observed you could
affect the future by changing the past. I
think it would be a wonderful gift. It sound exciting.
No, Earthwalker, it doesn't sound exciting to me at all. Things
I see, sometimes, are going to
happen or they come as a warning , when one can change them.
Like when I lived in Nova Scotia
here in Canada on the East Coast and used to watch the news
from New York. There was one
female newscaster that annoyed me...no idea why. One evening
I said out loud: Oh, go home and
get killed in an auto accident. It shocked me to hear my own
words. Well, the next morning I
heard the news, she did get killed on her way home in a single
car accident! There was also a
story about David Rappaport, a diminutive actor, being interviewed.
Now I saw him once before
in an interview and this time he was asked the same stupid questions
and his answers were the
same, but this time I had the feeling that he would kill himself,
as he had said in the interview. I
got all excited and hoped desperately that someone in his surrounding
would notice that this
time he would do it. Well I do not have to mention that a few
days later he was found under a
tree in a park dead. The way he had described it! Also with
our Superman I had the feeling that
something was going to happen when I saw him on his horse in
an news item or whatever, it
looked wrong to me and I said out loud Be careful! well, and
we all know what happened to him!
I think it might be good to know beforehand for oneself. But
seeing or knowing things like that is
more of a burden, and I do not think it is exciting! In my humble
opinion only. But then there
maybe others here who have a different opinion.
To me it doesn't make sense that Spirit would only give you
the gift to see things before they
happen. That would not be exciting and would serve no purpose
unless it was for initial
teachings. Haven't you also been given the gift to heal or to
intervene or to be able to take some
action? Isn't that the real gift? To me that is exciting and
would make the pain at least partially
acceptable; doesn't it?
Pardon my interruption here but whoa Nellie! It can be wonderful
knowing things are going to
happen...if they are good things to begin with. Seeing tragedy
is not pleasant. All gifts are not
blessings in that regard and they aren't always meant for us
to take action in. They teach us
things but we're not to change those things. It's a fine line
to cross attempting to change the
future and there are strict cosmic laws about what is right
or wrong to mess with. Sometimes we
can change things through intercepting before they take place,
but we have to have permission
from the party involved to interfere in their life and free
will. Otherwise it's an intrusion and we
may be interfering in preventing them from learning something
important about life and
Here energy work (channeling and directing it such as in Reiki
and other methods of spiritual
pathwork) comes into play and yes, more or less directing that
energy is much like directing a
light beam. Our gifts are not for amusement. Nor are they here
to excite us (though they can
from time to time). To see things is to allow us in some way
to forewarn others of impending
trouble and we can do that but we can't alter the outcome without
permission to do so and that
would come from the person/s involved or Spirit directly.
The work of a practitioner is not always pleasant, but yes,
it's a gift to work with and use.
However, we can't alter other's lives or their decisions. Free
will is theirs. Nor should we take it
upon ourselves to act, we must receive a request to do so or
we are invasive. We don't know why
things are happening the way they are otherwise and we can do
more damage than good even if
we think we are acting for the betterment of the situation.
Sometimes out of the darkest clouds we
find the brightest silver linings.
Certainly we cannot go back and alter history, nor can we step
into the future and think we have
a right to determine the fate of the world on any level. That's
all wrong. The changes we would
make would mean some people born would not have been given life,
and many side-effects would
stem from such activity. We are not by any means all-seeing,
all-knowing, or omnipotent and we
should never assume we have a fraction of that ability. We get
glimpses for certain reasons and
we have to act as best we can. Sometimes it's simply to be an
observer/witness to life itself so we
can see the need to change something in ourselves.
Cinnamon. I was looking for some of those words you used to
explain things! *smiles* You are
right! I think sometimes there should be people here on earth
seeing things, knowing things just
to be witnesses also. We are otherwise just *hollow bones* as
you say. Like I add sometimes to a
wish of healing for someone "only if I am supposed to help"
put into better words then that
though. Even in sending healing energies I don't take for granted
that it is granted so to speak!
Oh......I need a rest from words
they are so confusing!
Cinnamon and Wisowl,
No of course you won't just interfere with another under normal
condition. Individuals need to
be respected. I am sorry that to me was a given. I just didn't
express what I was asking well. I
was trying not to get into theory but maybe I need to "just
a little". By observing something (deja
vu) for no other intent than just to observe seems to be a waste
energy and is inefficient. Energy
by its nature is highly conserved and efficient. All things
have a cause and an effect. The effect
could be to make us more aware of something in the future. But
I still think it would have more
By absorbing the energy (observing it) in any form such as deja
vu you have altered it and
changed it into something other than what it was prior to the
observation. Even with no intent,
you have nevertheless blocked the wave pattern and thereby diverted
or altered it in some
manner. If that change precedes the event you have altered its
form unconsciously. In other
words you are changing it simply by observing. You have changed
the future (at least in part) by
observing the past.
Are there different ways of adsorbing it (observing) thereby
relegating the energy pattern
meaningless or meaningful by your free will as you absorb it,
reflect or divert that which you are
observing? If it is observed consciously does that make it fact?
If it is reflected does that change
By the deja vu experience you are already part of the process
of energy transfer even if
unknowingly. I guess that is where my questions come in. Can't
you consciously use the energy
that is drawn to you. As an example. In the mundane world, if
I saw a truck moving along a
highway and saw a small child or any individual in front of
it an immediate response would be to
pull the child / person out of the way. You wouldn't wait and
ask the question if it was the free
will of the child or the person to be killed. Yet, the reality
is you have altered future events
through observation of past events and action in the current
time frame without considering the
free will of the person involved. Wouldn't the same be true
in the world of Spirit as well?
I for one have to give up on your questions! Phew (wipes sweat
of her brow)! Cinnamon gave
you great answers to your questions if you do not understand
them, maybe it is time to go and
dance and put your clearly formulated questions there, one at
a time. As far as I can see only
Spirit has a way to make you see things/understand things the
way you may need to see them!
Well, friend, here you have my clear/direct answer! LOL
Thanks, that was my intent for tonight. But actually SEDD answered
my question (as well as
Cinnamon) this morning at least in part. You use the word hollow
bone, but I think the purpose
of empaths are more like filters (to me, semantic difference
only); attracting negative or positive
energies and either neutralizing it and grounding it so its
no longer charged or changing it to
send "blessings" back. Purification is important work;
therein a reason for the pain and to me
the purpose. I have asked these questions and guides are showing
me how to work with energy
but that doesn't bring an understanding of the purpose at least
as of yet.
Thanks again and I apologize for the confusion. Well, maybe
at least a beginning. I have these
other questions though? Just kidding; at least for tonight.
Thanks for all of your inputs! I do like
to understand purpose and intent (Cinnamon cringes). Unlike
most of you I need to understand
and have been telling my guides the same. I just don't readily
accept things until I understand
them and my guides do know this; it has been thoroughly addressed.
Although for me it is easy to
visualize my guides, communicating is still hard. Hopefully
in time I will understand their
teachings more easily.
You will, and then you'll get the giggles to go with it. Coyote
Medicine is part of all our lives.
Believe it or not your questions are wonderful contributions
to the community. They raise issues
others think about but don't want to address for whatever reasons.
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